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Forums: Starfinder General Discussion: Solarian Lore Question (5) VampByDay Apr 21, 2018, 11:25 am

So looking into Solarians, I had a question. So Solarians get their powers from studying the stars, right? The book describes Solarians as agents of the cosmic forces of the stars and black holes (basically inferring that all Solarians follow, at least in part, The Cycle.) It also calls them 'enlightened warriors.'

Additionally, it was the Kasatha who brought Solarians to the pact worlds, and the wording of their enclaves (the Idari and their enclave on Absolom Station) seem to imply that one needs to study at one of these centers of learning (or at least learn from a master, I guess) for years before becoming a Solarian.

Spoiler for Dead Suns book 2:

I know Elves developed Solarianism years ago on Castrovel, but it doesn't seem like they passed the knowledge on to anyone, so we'll disregard them for now.

But . . . here's the thing. The pact worlds book introduces us to evil Zon-Kuthon Solarians, and space pirate Solarians . . . Where they come from? They don't seem like followers of the cycle (especially the Zon Kuthon Cultist) nor can I imagine them being accepted into a Kasatha Solarian Academy. So . . . what gives? Have Solarians just become so ubiquitous now that anyone can become one without following the cycle? In the 100 or so years since the Kasatha showed up, has Solarianism spread so far that even a space-pirate can find a teacher? Is there a way to become a solarian WITHOUT studying?

Does anyone know the answer to these questions?

And before you ask, I am looking into this because I am making my own Solarian and I want to be informed on how to write up his backstory.

Brew Bird Apr 21, 2018, 07:47 pm

I'd have to track down where it's been said, but I'm pretty sure the philosophy of The Cycle is only one of many ways to becoming a Solarian. Other traditions have developed independently. The diversity of paths to becoming a Solarian is why they have the Skill Adept class feature class feature.

Forums: Starfinder General Discussion: Solarian Lore Question (8) VampByDay Apr 21, 2018, 09:01 pm

Brew Bird wrote:

I'd have to track down where it's been said, but I'm pretty sure the philosophy of The Cycle is only one of many ways to becoming a Solarian. Other traditions have developed independently. The diversity of paths to becoming a Solarian is why they have the Skill Adept class feature class feature.

I don't doubt that was said somewhere, but this is what the core rulebook says about Solarians:

CRB page 100 wrote:

The stars guide the planets with gravity, create life with light and heat, and utterly consume worlds in supernovas

and black holes. You understand that these acts of creation and destruction are not opposites, but rather two parts of a natural, dualistic cycle. You seek to be an agent of that cycle, an enlightened warrior with the ability to manipulate the forces of the stars themselves.

And this is what it says about the cycle.

CRB page 482 wrote:

Introduced to the Pact Worlds by the kasathas, the philosophy of the solarians teaches that existence is an endless cycle. Stars are born, die, and are born again, alternately bringing life to the universe and destroying it. The balance of the cosmos rests on the Cycle, and it connects everything in the universe.

I'm just saying, that seems pretty much like All Solarians at least acknowledge the circle . . . or draw their power from it? I'm not calling you a liar or anything, just . . . trying to square that circle.

Brew Bird Apr 21, 2018, 10:08 pm

There's a difference between "the cycle of stellar evolution" and "The Cycle". One's a natural reality, and one's a metaphysical philosophy. What's more, while the Kasatha were the first people to introduce Solarian practices to the Pact Worlds, the advent of Drift travel has certainly exposed The Pact Worlds to traditions from other races.

There are also plenty of people who obtained Solarian powers through some unique means. Owen gave some examples way back when the class was previewed.

Forums: Starfinder General Discussion: Solarian Lore Question (11) VampByDay Apr 21, 2018, 10:55 pm

Brew Bird wrote:

There's a difference between "the cycle of stellar evolution" and "The Cycle". One's a natural reality, and one's a metaphysical philosophy. What's more, while the Kasatha were the first people to introduce Solarian practices to the Pact Worlds, the advent of Drift travel has certainly exposed The Pact Worlds to traditions from other races.

There are also plenty of people who obtained Solarian powers through some unique means. Owen gave some examples way back when the class was previewed.

Thank you! That blog post was what I was looking for. So, the answer is 'yes, there are multiple ways to become a solarian, here's proof from the developers themselves.' That's all I wanted to know.

Thank you.

Xenocrat Apr 22, 2018, 06:16 am

Kasatha first arrived on Golarion something around 8,000 years ago, so... They are a published Pathfinder player option and have been for years.

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